#1 - Salespeople love trying to make your payments seem little by asking you about your desired "monthly payments" and then making it seem REALLY less by making the payment terms ridiculously long. Yes, that includes you, Longman's Kia in Markham and Sisley Honda in Toronto. -_- Anyway, I don't think anyone should be in debt THAT long over a car. 5 years is long enough already, let alone 6... (My ideal is 3-4 years, if I really do have to finance, but aiming to pay it off sooner.)
I guess someone actually falls for the stuff above though if salespeople continue to use such tactics. But just 'cause your monthly payments are low doesn't mean your OTR price is something crazy...
#2 - Sisley Honda totally over-prices their Civics! This one Civic I was looking at (2008) was priced at $16888, when similar civics (same year, same or higher model, comparable mileage) are being listed at $2k less - and they're also being sold at other Honda dealerships so it's not some shady place somewhere... (on a side note, you can find 2009s at the same price, geez...)
And ughhh, the high pressure sales tactics. Haha. Okay - I admit if I had to buy a car I'd love a white colour, but the sales guy made it seem like if I don't get this one I'll never come across a white HC again. Except I look for cars on a regular basis (have been for the past few months) and they come up - a lot. And most of them I've come across don't have a cracked bumper which the dealer wants YOU to pay $500 for as well. (Even more insulting is that they themselves probably only pay $100-200 to fix it...)
#3 - Random scam fees like "anti theft" fees which are "mandatory" - from my research, this is supposed to be some "etching fee" for the VIN, which costs around $20 to do, but you're charged $500 for. Anyway, I was looking at a USED car, so *if* this is actually mandatory, shouldn't this procedure have been done when the car was initally purchased from Honda? ... sigh. This is just like the time Agincourt Mazda tried to charge me $500 for their hydrogen-filled tires, because regular air hasn't proven itself sufficient in the past couple of decades.
Anyway, my brother was a really big help while I was car shopping. It's too bad a lot of these places like to mess around because I'm actually really in the market for a car. I think the most important things I've learned while car shopping is to not get emotional or attached because the cars I am looking for are not rare or exotic, and be patient, and finally, be willing to walk away (which me and my brother did because we didn't reach an agreeable price - actually, our salesguy wasn't even negotiating with us at all, what a nub). I'm thankful that I am patient and not at a point where I NEED a new (used, or new) car because even if my car did break down, I can still get to where I need to be. =)
I'm now looking at Kijiji's listings, which is a lot better than Autotrader's shitty website. Hopefully, by spring time I'll have a new car! I'd love to continue driving my Golf until it breaks down, but I'd really like something new (so I've been saying for the past half a year).